10 April 2012

Psalm 51

I am reposting the thoughts that Denise posted at the end our last discussion. Though it might be "cleaner" to keep different topics seperate:


"Wonder if I might take us in a different direction given it is Easter today? It is about the atonement of Christ. We had a very good discussion about it today. In summary there are basically two main concepts: PSA- Penal Substitution Atonement and Christ the Victor. At the foundation of these is the issue of original sin. Being raised a Calvinist, I overcome a great deal even to open my mind and heart to these issues- still complicated and difficult. But it fits very much in line with what we talked about earlier: the legal/ contract idea of God. So let’s talk about Psalm 51:5- the one quoted most often to defend original sin. ( I would also like to talk about atonement – but we have to start somewhere and I’ve found it best to “eat the elephant” one bite at a time. Thoughts- you want to discuss this?"